The Digital Life

The Digital Life


100th Episode Celebration!

April 23, 2015

Jon: Welcome to episode 100 of The Digital Life, a show about our adventures in the world of design and technology. I'm your host Jon Follett and with me is founder and co-host, Dirk Knemeyer.

Dirk: Hidey-ho, Jon.

Jon: One hundred episodes into The Digital Life and I'm still pretty excited about what is to come. Frankly, we've had a lot of different iterations of the show, and there were times when I didn't think we would hit triple digits, but here we are now. To celebrate a little bit in this show, Dirk and I are going to take a look back at some of our favorite episodes of the previous five years or so. We'll include links to all of those within the text on the transcript of the show, so our listeners can click through and check out some of the historical archives of The Digital Life. Dirk, what are your feelings on making it to episode 100?

Dirk: Well, it's pretty cool. I think when we started it ... I can't remember what my hopes for the show were ... but we had a lot of optimism about interesting people we could bring on, about the things that we could think about, share about, learn about, and the show's changed a lot. In the early days, it was all interviews. Every show in the early going, we had outside guests on. After that for a time, it was shows just with my news segment, which has been going for a long time now. Then I stepped away from the show for a while. EriK Dahl joined you, and you guys were recording about once a month, and then more recently, it's been you and me, babe. We're just banging out the news and current events every week for ... I don't know, what is it, six months, nine months, something like that?

Jon: Yeah, that's right. I think as we look back at the history of the show, we've always covered user experience, design and technology, so that's been a thread throughout. It's also interesting to look back and see what the attitude was towards each of those topics in 2010. Certainly since 2010, user experience has turned into ... I wouldn't say a kitchen table word, but certainly around the business round table, it's a common and popular area of focus.

Apple has become the biggest and perhaps best company in the world, at least by market cap, and the design field has seen an influx of job creation and new people and energy on a level that I probably never would have expected when we first began. Do you recall that transformation from when we started the show to now, and what are your take-aways from that?

Dirk: Yeah, when we started the show, we knew that what we were doing was user experience work, but we were militant about not calling ourselves user experience. That was before user experience became very popular because we knew it was becoming popular and we wanted to rise above that fray. More recently, it's become so popular that we've broken down and we use user experience for ourselves as well. It's interesting that we didn't use it to try and stay ahead and away from the emerging market, but the emerging market became so vast that we felt like we had no choice but to get a little dirty in the mud here.

Jon: Yeah, that's certainly a topic we'll come back to as user experience grows, changes, becomes more or less popular. Who knows, but that's going to be an ongoing theme of discussion on the show for sure. When I took a look at the archives this morning, we went through all 100 episodes in preparation for our show today. There were some episodes that brought back really good memories for me, so I'm going to start off with ... My favorite episode has to be the future of digital music where it had the drummer of the band, They Might Be Giants, on along with one of my friends from Berklee School of Music as well. We discussed a lot of things that have basically torn up the music industry and really made it ... I don't know, probably one of the industries that's been most disrupted by the digital revolution is music. Our friend, Ian Dorsch was on that show as well,