"There can be barriers with people when they're learning this...because they have to walk through doors they really don't want to go through. And in order to *fit* through those doors, they have to leave that backpack of junk behind."

A fascinating, wide-ranging conversation with 20-year veteran of the Canadian Armed Forces - and founder of Systema Kingston (Ontario) - Pete Rogers.

Pete has been training at Systema HQ Toronto for more than a decade. But in addition to this, he has trained extensively in karate, Muay Thai, Filipino Martial Arts, and continues to train BJJ and military combative styles.

Here, we cover perceptions of "reality" in martial arts; breaking the pride barrier; and how he uses Systema in his post-military life to work with dogs, horses, combat veterans and PTSD sufferers. 

Learn more about training with Pete and his group on Facebook, at https://www.facebook.com/systemakingston