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What to do When the Bishop is an Accidental Diminisher | An Interview With Liz Wiseman

May 21, 2017

Liz Wiseman has been named as one of the top 10 leadership thinkers in the world and teaches leadership to executives and emerging leaders internationally. She is the President of The Wiseman Group, a leadership research and development firm headquartered in Silicon Valley. She is the author of three best-selling books: Rookie Smarts: Why Learning Beats Knowing in the New Game of Work, Multipliers: How the Best Leaders Make Everyone Smarter and The Multiplier Effect: Tapping the Genius Inside Our Schools. Her book Mulitipliers: How the Best Leaders Make Everyone Smarter was recently revised and updated.  In this episode we talk about these revisions and what to do when we have a leader that is a "diminisher."

A FULL TRANSCRIPT OF THE INTERVIEW IS BELOW

Interview Highlights:
3:30 Revised edition of Multipliers
7:00 Diminishers as leaders
8:30 How do we build a culture of leaders
11:30 How to see the accidental diminisher in you
16:00 How to approach a diminisher?
              Most common strategies (that don't typically work)-

* Confront them
* Avoid them
* Quit
* Comply and lay low
* Ignore the diminishing behavior

18:00 Experience of Liz confronting a Relief Society President
21:00 Role play- good guy/bad boss
25:45 How to respond to a diminisher- Curiousity approach/ask questions
         "I wonder why?" Have empathy.  Who did wrong by this person?  Who micromanaged them?
27:40 Having empathy for the people we work under changes the dynamics
28:15 Instead of excluding the diminisher, ask their opinion
30:00 You don't get to change other people but you can change your response
31:00 You have the choice to be the Multiplier yourself.  It doesn't have to come from the top
32:00 Choose to respond with love
33:00 You don't have to be the boss to be the Multiplier
34:15 Fluid leadership
37:00 Defensive moves- turn the volume down
39:00 Retreat and regroup- example from Apple executive Steve Jobs
42:00 Assert your capability- good strategy to deal with accidental diminisher- "I got this"
46:15 What Liz has learned about her discipleship of Jesus Christ
Links:
Order the revised edition of Multipliers

Other LeadingLDS Interview with Liz Wiseman
Full Interview Transcript:
Kurt Francom (LLDS): Liz, this is your third time on the LeadingLDS podcast, and I welcome you back.

Liz Wiseman: It's good to be here. You know, I actually thought it might be my fourth time, but it might-

LLDS: It may be!

Liz Wiseman: It might be the third or the fourth, but I hope you're suspicious that I'm out for your job, that I actually want to be the host of the LeadingLDS broadcast.

LLDS: There you are. Well, it's yours.

Liz Wiseman: Because I keep coming back.

LLDS: You speak the words, and you can be the host of LeadingLDS. I think you're much more qualified than I will ever dream of being. Nonetheless, [00:03:25] I always mention how kind you've been to the LeadingLDS organization, and the way we've interacted. I do name drop your name for various times. "Yeah, I actually know Liz Wiseman, you know, so, she's a pretty big deal." Right?