With zero evidence, a mountain of controversy, but a willing community - over 30 years ago Bob Lazar captures the world's attention. William Pullin, ufo sub-culture historian, tells us why.

Dr. Ouellette is the coordinator of the Institute for Research on Exoplanets (iREx) @ UofM fmr Education & Outreach Officer for the McDonald Institute @ Queens U, & the recipient of Partners In Research Canada's 2018 Young Researcher Ambassador Award

Robert Bonomo is an author and publisher of The Cactus Land.

Chris is the former Mutual UFO Network Director of Research and founder and host of the Mad Scientist Podcast and co-host of the Mad Scientist Roundtables. He has a PhD in Chemical Engineering with a focus on nanomaterials for adsorption and separations.

We take listener calls and share some banter back and forth on recent UFO events and the paranormal scene in general. Also we discuss some of the blatant fake YouTube cult movements that seem to be sweeping the scene as of late.