The Fourth Estate

The Fourth Estate


Latest Episodes

The Incredibles 2 rant, family separation, and Episcopal church property woes—The Fourth Estate, Ep.31
June 25, 2018

On this episode Marty and Bob review a movie review, discuss the recent family separations at the border, and explore an Episcopal church property dispute.

Marty and Bob Talk About the News—The Fourth Estate, Ep.30
June 22, 2018

On this delayed episode Marty and Bob discuss various topics that were in the news three weeks ago.

Waffle House Hero, Gaza Mass Protests, the Bible in California—The Fourth Estate, Ep.29
May 04, 2018

On this episode Marty and Bob discuss James Shaw, hero of the Waffle House shooting; the IDF response to the Gaza protests; and several God Beat stories.

Flight 1308, Pearl Joy Brown, and the Disintegration of Bill Hybels—The Fourth Estate, Ep.28
April 28, 2018

On this episode Marty and Bob discuss the heroic pilot, Tammie Jo Shults, the beautiful life and haunting death of Pearl Joy Brown, and the disintegration of Bill Hybels.

Dead Russians in Syria, Frankenstein, and What is a fact?—The Fourth Estate, Ep.27
March 14, 2018

On this episode Marty and Bob discuss the misunderstood Frankenstein, the blessing of the AK-47s, Russian deaths in a skirmish in Syria, and the meaning of "facts."

The Media Bias Chart, feat. Vanessa Otero—The Fourth Estate, Ep.26
March 02, 2018

On this episode Marty and Bob welcome Vanessa Otero, creator of the Media Bias Chart, and founder of the All Generalizations are False blog, to talk about news, reporting, and bias.

Billy Graham, and more struggles at Newsweek—The Fourth Estate Podcast, Ep.25
February 23, 2018

On this episode Marty Duren and Bob Smietana discuss the life of Billy Graham, and struggles at Newsweek magazine.

“Fawning” Kim Yo-Jong, NYT hiring problems, and Kate Bowler’s grace—The Fourth Estate Podcast, Ep.24
February 16, 2018

On this episode Marty and Bob discuss "fawning over" Kim Yo-Jong's Olympics visit, a bad NYT hire, and the grace of Kate Bowler.

Moody Blues and Russia Truth—The Fourth Estate Podcast, Ep.23
February 13, 2018

On this episode Marty and Bob discuss the problems at Moody Bible Institute and whether the Russia story can ever be untangled.

Nigerian Megachurch Cities, Snake News, and the News Process—The Fourth Estate Podcast, Ep.22
January 25, 2018

On this episode Marty and Bob discuss the a Nigerian church that morphed into a city, the pope's take on fake news, and the journalistic process.